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	<title>Comments on: Texas Baptists, Homosexuality and Royal Lane Baptist Church: A Few Short Thoughts</title>
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		<title>By: Georgia Bradford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Georgia Bradford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 15:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m applauding this article; but, I wonder if it doesn’t get to the real root of the problem - ultimate power and control. Hmmm. 

The issue between the Baptist General Convention of Texas (BGCT) and Royal Lane Church (RLC) reminds me of ‘Pillars of the Earth,’ by Ken Follett. He writes stories of feudalism where peons were controlled with threats of damnation by Church Fathers while &#039;land grabbing&#039; was conducted by Lords of the Lands or Kings. 

Working classes were caught in tensions between the Church and  Kings who sought the products of the hands and hearts of the people: their hard work, music, art, services and adoration so that the powerful could build empires.   

Threats of eternal damnation - burning in hell’s fires, kept ‘sinners’ who paid alms and penalties for their bread under oppressive control for centuries.  The basic attitude of fiefdom does not honor the integrity of each soul – people were like chattel – to be used by endowed powerful figures at will.  

It is still evidenced today; when some Priests, having taken the vow of celibacy, use ‘privilege and protection’ to defile youthful innocents without recrimination.   

In the case of Royal Lane Church and the BGCT, the attempt to control and deny on the basis of threat that smacks of ‘the age old burning in hell’ theme is still alive and well. 

The Royal Lane Church community seeks to build on Christ’s unequivocal love.  It’s a place where there is no sorting of those that are loved and those that are not to be loved.  It is a place where people, who choose to align themselves with the ministy at Royal Lane, are embraced and honored for their heart-felt desire to be servants and to worship God without being denied their self-hood.  

While, I admire any attempt to support services to people who have been caught in the woes of sickness, hunger and despair such as with missions paid into by Royal Lane to the BGCT for feeding the hungry, I am relieved that Royal Lane, by default, has found another path through which it will have a finer, bigger, and brighter light to which hungry souls can turn.  

It would be astoundingly redemptive if the Baptist General Convention of Texas would awaken to a day when they do not feel compelled to judge and threaten eternal damnation of particular souls who need to express their self-hood in the midst of those who accept them as they are. To judge and piously doom someone to hell if they don&#039;t follow restricted &#039;religious’ tenants denys the humanity of those judged while endangering their own integrity amidst the broader community.  As noted above, it reminds me of the dark ages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m applauding this article; but, I wonder if it doesn’t get to the real root of the problem &#8211; ultimate power and control. Hmmm. </p>
<p>The issue between the Baptist General Convention of Texas (BGCT) and Royal Lane Church (RLC) reminds me of ‘Pillars of the Earth,’ by Ken Follett. He writes stories of feudalism where peons were controlled with threats of damnation by Church Fathers while &#8216;land grabbing&#8217; was conducted by Lords of the Lands or Kings. </p>
<p>Working classes were caught in tensions between the Church and  Kings who sought the products of the hands and hearts of the people: their hard work, music, art, services and adoration so that the powerful could build empires.   </p>
<p>Threats of eternal damnation &#8211; burning in hell’s fires, kept ‘sinners’ who paid alms and penalties for their bread under oppressive control for centuries.  The basic attitude of fiefdom does not honor the integrity of each soul – people were like chattel – to be used by endowed powerful figures at will.  </p>
<p>It is still evidenced today; when some Priests, having taken the vow of celibacy, use ‘privilege and protection’ to defile youthful innocents without recrimination.   </p>
<p>In the case of Royal Lane Church and the BGCT, the attempt to control and deny on the basis of threat that smacks of ‘the age old burning in hell’ theme is still alive and well. </p>
<p>The Royal Lane Church community seeks to build on Christ’s unequivocal love.  It’s a place where there is no sorting of those that are loved and those that are not to be loved.  It is a place where people, who choose to align themselves with the ministy at Royal Lane, are embraced and honored for their heart-felt desire to be servants and to worship God without being denied their self-hood.  </p>
<p>While, I admire any attempt to support services to people who have been caught in the woes of sickness, hunger and despair such as with missions paid into by Royal Lane to the BGCT for feeding the hungry, I am relieved that Royal Lane, by default, has found another path through which it will have a finer, bigger, and brighter light to which hungry souls can turn.  </p>
<p>It would be astoundingly redemptive if the Baptist General Convention of Texas would awaken to a day when they do not feel compelled to judge and threaten eternal damnation of particular souls who need to express their self-hood in the midst of those who accept them as they are. To judge and piously doom someone to hell if they don&#8217;t follow restricted &#8216;religious’ tenants denys the humanity of those judged while endangering their own integrity amidst the broader community.  As noted above, it reminds me of the dark ages.</p>
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		<title>By: Royal Lane Post On Associated Baptist Press &#124; the big daddy weave</title>
		<link>http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2010/03/texas-baptists-homosexuality-and-royal-lane-baptist-church-a-few-short-thoughts.html#comment-50478</link>
		<dc:creator>Royal Lane Post On Associated Baptist Press &#124; the big daddy weave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] shortened version of my March 17th post on Royal Lane is now featured over at Associated Baptist Press under the title Opinion: Why can’t [...]</description>
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		<title>By: AKA</title>
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		<dc:creator>AKA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BigDaddyWeave,

Have you seen this blog?

http://stopbaptistpredators.blogspot.com/2010/03/whats-really-in-closet.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BigDaddyWeave,</p>
<p>Have you seen this blog?</p>
<p><a href="http://stopbaptistpredators.blogspot.com/2010/03/whats-really-in-closet.html" rel="nofollow">http://stopbaptistpredators.blogspot.com/2010/03/whats-really-in-closet.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rev. Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev. Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weave,
Thank you for your committed, faithful, and justice-centered witness.  It is the much-needed voice of straight allies (like you) that provide comfort and hope to the LGBTQ community, reminding persons within that community that they are created as beloved children of God and absolutely nothing less.  I continue as a pastor in a Baptist church who, like Broadway and possibly Royal Lane, made an intentional decision to &quot;come out&quot; as welcoming and affirming after being ousted from our local American Baptist region.  And it is precisely because of the &quot;fragile&quot; freedoms that you spoke of that we remain faithful to Baptist polity and witness.  It seems that Baptists are no longer Baptist when they deny local churches their autonomy.
Your rant and blog are inspiring.
Thank you,
Rev. (now Dr.) Ang</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weave,<br />
Thank you for your committed, faithful, and justice-centered witness.  It is the much-needed voice of straight allies (like you) that provide comfort and hope to the LGBTQ community, reminding persons within that community that they are created as beloved children of God and absolutely nothing less.  I continue as a pastor in a Baptist church who, like Broadway and possibly Royal Lane, made an intentional decision to &#8220;come out&#8221; as welcoming and affirming after being ousted from our local American Baptist region.  And it is precisely because of the &#8220;fragile&#8221; freedoms that you spoke of that we remain faithful to Baptist polity and witness.  It seems that Baptists are no longer Baptist when they deny local churches their autonomy.<br />
Your rant and blog are inspiring.<br />
Thank you,<br />
Rev. (now Dr.) Ang</p>
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