Comments on: Southern Baptist Pastor Prayed For Death Of Rep. John Murtha http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2010/02/southern-baptist-pastor-prayed-for-death-of-rep-john-murtha.html News & Commentary About All Things Baptist Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:04:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Andy http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2010/02/southern-baptist-pastor-prayed-for-death-of-rep-john-murtha.html#comment-50164 Andy Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:04:11 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=2285#comment-50164 As a free speech advocate (http://pragpols.blogspot.com/), I believe that it is time to drop all speech restrictions on whatever any church wants to say about any political issue or any candidate. If a church leader wants to condemn members of the congregation to eternal agony and damnation for supporting the wrong political position or candidate that is just fine. It is also time to eliminate non-profit status for all organizations, regardless of their social mission. As we all know, the national debt is way out of control and that will not change any time soon. The U.S. treasury desperately needs revenue. On top of that, some non-profit organizations and churches advocate for political and social positions that are profoundly offensive to me. Given that, I do not want to support or subsidize their anti-American agendas with one penny of my taxes. In other words, if churches or anyone else wants to play politics, then pay just like the rest of us. That is only fair and reasonable, isn’t it? Of course it is. It is Tea Party time! As a free speech advocate (http://pragpols.blogspot.com/), I believe that it is time to drop all speech restrictions on whatever any church wants to say about any political issue or any candidate. If a church leader wants to condemn members of the congregation to eternal agony and damnation for supporting the wrong political position or candidate that is just fine. It is also time to eliminate non-profit status for all organizations, regardless of their social mission. As we all know, the national debt is way out of control and that will not change any time soon. The U.S. treasury desperately needs revenue. On top of that, some non-profit organizations and churches advocate for political and social positions that are profoundly offensive to me. Given that, I do not want to support or subsidize their anti-American agendas with one penny of my taxes. In other words, if churches or anyone else wants to play politics, then pay just like the rest of us. That is only fair and reasonable, isn’t it? Of course it is. It is Tea Party time!

]]> By: r. grannemann http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2010/02/southern-baptist-pastor-prayed-for-death-of-rep-john-murtha.html#comment-47021 r. grannemann Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:31:45 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=2285#comment-47021 (1) A Southwestern Seminary trustee is certainly a Southern Baptist leader. (2) What strikes me about this Baptist missionaries in Haiti incident is that we have Land, Chapman, Hunt and Page pleading on the missionaries behalf, yet with no intimate knowledge of the facts. It sounds to me like Laura Silsby is likely guilty. She saw the big bucks that could be made in illegal adoptions and got a bunch of unsuspecting Baptist laypeople to act as her cover. "The leader of the group of Americans charged on Thursday with abducting children in Haiti is an Idaho businesswoman with a complicated financial history that involves complaints from employees over unpaid wages, state liens on a company bank account and lawsuits in small claims court." "Ms. Silsby and her business, Personal Shopper, which provides shopping services for Internet customers, have faced multiple legal claims." See: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/world/americas/05idaho.html Give the Haitian authorities some credit. They are rightfully conducting a full investigation. (1) A Southwestern Seminary trustee is certainly a Southern Baptist leader.

(2) What strikes me about this Baptist missionaries in Haiti incident is that we have Land, Chapman, Hunt and Page pleading on the missionaries behalf, yet with no intimate knowledge of the facts. It sounds to me like Laura Silsby is likely guilty. She saw the big bucks that could be made in illegal adoptions and got a bunch of unsuspecting Baptist laypeople to act as her cover.

“The leader of the group of Americans charged on Thursday with abducting children in Haiti is an Idaho businesswoman with a complicated financial history that involves complaints from employees over unpaid wages, state liens on a company bank account and lawsuits in small claims court.”

“Ms. Silsby and her business, Personal Shopper, which provides shopping services for Internet customers, have faced multiple legal claims.”

See: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/world/americas/05idaho.html

Give the Haitian authorities some credit. They are rightfully conducting a full investigation.

]]> By: K Gray http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2010/02/southern-baptist-pastor-prayed-for-death-of-rep-john-murtha.html#comment-47007 K Gray Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:16:53 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=2285#comment-47007 Sounds like Mr. Oldham acted in his official capacity clearly stating that Mr. Drake does not represent the SBC with respect to imprecatory prayer. That's pretty complete; I suppose they could repeat it or have someone else say it again. Are there any former leaders of other Baptist conventions doing/saying anything that needs to be denounced? Sounds like Mr. Oldham acted in his official capacity clearly stating that Mr. Drake does not represent the SBC with respect to imprecatory prayer. That’s pretty complete; I suppose they could repeat it or have someone else say it again.

Are there any former leaders of other Baptist conventions doing/saying anything that needs to be denounced?

]]> By: Bart Barber http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2010/02/southern-baptist-pastor-prayed-for-death-of-rep-john-murtha.html#comment-47005 Bart Barber Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:40:02 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=2285#comment-47005 I don't think that PR is the reason why SBC leaders have commented publicly on the situation in Haiti. I don't think that the election of Wiley Drake should be taken seriously. I don't think that one could rightly characterize Southern Baptists as silent with regard to Drake. I am not a Southern Baptist leader, I realize, but I did once blog comparing Drake to Caligula's horse Incitatus. I don’t think that PR is the reason why SBC leaders have commented publicly on the situation in Haiti. I don’t think that the election of Wiley Drake should be taken seriously. I don’t think that one could rightly characterize Southern Baptists as silent with regard to Drake. I am not a Southern Baptist leader, I realize, but I did once blog comparing Drake to Caligula’s horse Incitatus.

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