Comments on: Southeastern Seminary vs. Baptist Press

By: Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 04:37:28 +0000

Oh give me a freaking thelogical break!!!

Do any of you “intelectuals” notice that Jesus references the physical world to help explain the spiritual world? Do your own research!

Learn a little, extreemely little,”dare I say tiny” bit of advanced physics and you will quickly realize that man’s so called logic is not able to even grasp the physical world. How can you argue about the spiritual world? Explain to me how nonlocality works in the physical world and then I’ll consider your advanced knowlege of the spiritual world.

By: George Frink

George Frink — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:44:39 +0000

Baptist Press seems to have inadvertently cemented some relationships with Driscoll’s ministry.
Looking over your blog, I see you’ve had your differences with BP in the past.
I find no evidence online thus far that BP systematically runs corrections/clarifications the way mainstream news services do.
They revised the “Vulgarity” story, for example, but thus far that revision seems to me to have been without explanation.
Do they have a blog or other other online resource I have overlooked on which they may have had something to say about this matter and their handling of the “Vulgarity” story?
Thanks.

George Frink

By: Rodney Dunning

Rodney Dunning — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:35:22 +0000

I hereby nominate Tim (& Driscoll, I guess) for the False Dilemma of the Year Award. It’s only February, but I think they’ve got a good chance to bag the trophy by year’s end.

Good job.

By: Tim

Tim — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:48:40 +0000

Big Daddy, I do believe most women would not like to be called a “lying whore” but where does Driscoll do this? He does not call his female congregants lying whores, but rather states that if the mother of Jesus Christ were not actually a virgin, than our only other option was that she was a lying whore. Do you find this do be untrue, or are you just offended by his word selection. I believe that is the point Leland was trying to make. Would you have been just as offended if he used the word “harlot”?

By: Baptist Press kicks the hornet’s nest « BaptistPlanet

Baptist Press kicks the hornet’s nest « BaptistPlanet — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:15:58 +0000

[...] Baptist Press kicks the hornet’s nest The Southern Baptist Convention’s (SBC) Baptist Press (BP) stepped on the heels of an enthusiastically received North Carolina appearance by Mark Driscoll, with a critical piece. [...]

By: Chuck

Chuck — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:29:27 +0000

I didn’t find anything malicious in the BP article. It’s objective, I’d say, not objectionable.

Southeastern Seminary’s response sounds quite a bit like that of another blogger we’re familiar with–irrational.

By: Big Daddy Weave

Big Daddy Weave — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:40:09 +0000

I think your reading of Driscoll shows that there is indeed a generational gap between the two of us.

Most girls/women from my generation (the generation that Driscoll preaches to) would be, um, highly offended if they were called or referred to as a lying whore, slut, or ho. I think Don Imus lost his job a year or so ago for calling a couple of African-American women (around my age) “nappy-headed hoes.”

By: Leland Ross

Leland Ross — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:00:05 +0000

There is a strong drift toward the hard theological left. Some emergent types [want] to recast Jesus as a limp-wrist hippie in a dress with a lot of product in His hair, who drank decaf and made pithy Zen statements about life while shopping for the perfect pair of shoes. In Revelation, Jesus is a prize fighter with a tattoo down His leg, a sword in His hand and the commitment to make someone bleed. That is a guy I can worship. I cannot worship the hippie, diaper, halo Christ because I cannot worship a guy I can beat up. I fear some are becoming more cultural than Christian, and without a big Jesus who has authority and hates sin as revealed in the Bible, we will have less and less Christians, and more and more confused, spiritually self-righteous blogger critics of Christianity. The above is from an article in Relevant Magazine that was quoted in the Wikipedia article. The little bit you used to typify the man, Aaron, seems a bit lame to me. I mean, the only remotely objectionable word in it is "whore", and if you just substitute "harlot" there could hardly be anyone at BP who'd object. I agree that SEBTS probably invited him for the wrong reasons, and BP objects for different wrong reasons. I hope this looks okay; you have some odd available tags, and no Preview option... Haruo

By: Leland Ross

Leland Ross — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:58:45 +0000

By: Chris Johnson

Chris Johnson — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:12:15 +0000

Brother BDW,

Interesting fights going on out there…. Your article brought to my mind what the Apostle Paul, Silvanus and Timothy were communicating in agreement as the Thessalonians received this first letter…..

1 Thessalonians 2:3-7 “For our appeal does not spring from error or impurity or any attempt to deceive, (4) but just as we have been approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel, so we speak, not to please man, but to please God who tests our hearts. (5) For we never came with words of flattery, as you know, nor with a pretext for greed–God is witness. (6) Nor did we seek glory from people, whether from you or from others, though we could have made demands as apostles of Christ. (7) But we were gentle among you, like a nursing mother taking care of her own children.” ESV

When a truth teller for Christ appeals to the crowd, they are entrusted with the gospel and there is a responsibility to speak, not to please man. This can be done in one of two ways, and it appears that on some occasions Driscoll allows himself to enjoy one of these two categories. One way is to not preach the gospel at all, but flatter people. The other way is to preach the gospel and flatter people at the same. In other words,…flattery can come in the form of nice words (without gospel,…a Joel Olsteen approach, not Driscoll) or flattery can come with harsh, corrosive and abusive words that may turn off one crowd, but to the delight of the flatterer…tends to please another crowd. Neither approach is condoned by scripture. Both approaches tickle a little, but tickle different crowds.

That may be why this little spitting contest has ensued of which you are reporting.

Blessings,
Chris