2 days later I read in the Orlando Sentinel of some of the various accusations that are listed above. I have never gone to hear him since and WILL NOT! And if I her of people speaking of going to hear him, I always turn them away.

As a young college student at the time, I have never been so disappointed in another. He should be ashamed for the 100’s to 1000’s of men AND women he is leading astray with his preaching and lifestyle.

I also think it is important to note, if there was allegations of rape, who else is culpable here? The police, local small town government? There should be a long list of people getting called out, not just PP and the SBC.

Brunson is a PP wanna be and is just biding his time until he can take FBCJ for everything he can, and then run to PP for another position.

His wife, Debbie, of course, was approved for the IMB through the personal influence of PP. Enough said.

Thanks big dady weave for allowing my post. Blessings.

What about a 6 bedroom, 4.5 bath mansion on the golf course in a gated community after only one year on the job? Is that the message the baptist preacher is trying to send to the community?

Why discuss this in this thread? Because mega-church pastors, including Gilyard and Brunson, are able to abuse people because no one holds them accountable. As Southern Baptists, with autonomous churches, we rely on the congregations to police the pastors, not a church heirarchy. But when they surround themselves with yes men, they are being put in a position to give in to their sinful flesh. Some abuse members to get sexual favors. Others take advantage of congregants to get money. What do you suggest we do about it. Leaving and going to another church won’t help. Confronting the pastor won’t help. ????

And C.B.- what do you think about by-law changes that are not freely distributed or discussed prior to a vote on them? What about if they gave the pastor more power to appoint committee members and more authority in spending matters and formed a discipline committee. Would this be a new pastor you could love, respect, and follow?

I stand by every word I said here including these; You do not know of what you speak.

cb

Unless they did, or were willing to, it would be difficult to act decisively on their claims.

I haven’t read everything on this, but I know Gilyard went through several years of restoration steps with Patterson, Vines and Falwell before landing the Jacksonville church.

It was last year before Falwell allowed him in the Thomas Road pulpit.

CB Scott and Jerry Gerber both need to refrain from writing harsh personal words. Sometimes words from our mouths are hard to harness in the heat of the moment, but those typed by our hands should be subject to self-control. Unless you can type faster than you can talk.

Both Gilyard and Mac Brunson are GUILTY of taking advantage of their congregations. One took sex, one took money. Some take both. Satan knows each man’s weakness.

Where there is no accountability, abuses run rampant. Either sex or money..Satan never has anything new. Both had to feel good. I dare say seeing a member sign over the deed to a $307,000 piece of land might even feel better than any sexual act. They both should resign! Gilyard did only after the press got wind of his acts. When will Mac?

Our churches, our schools of all the churches and schools in the world should be safe from this kind of thing. We supposedly have the true doctrine according to many, correct? Why would I want my daughters to go to any seminary SB or church? We are so proud of being SB and the SBC. My question is why? Look at the scandals concerning sex and abuse that have surfaced from among our own? I’m not sure Paige or the churches can claim innocence on this. We certainly can’t claim church autonomy. Most of the women were victims, they were not all willing participants and these women deserve closure and justice.