We as Christians should all be affirming the Divine, universal nature of God’s Word. To accept pluralism as banning governing by God’s Law is rediculous.

So Huckabee wants to help us align our interpretation of the Constitution with the original source of it’s ideas. What is wrong with that? The Bible and the US Constitution are the original two bodies of law that present the idea of judging each person based only on their ‘merit.’

I think that sounds like a good idea whether I care for huckabee or not.

I did not question your salvation. I asked you if you were a Christian due to the way you worded your comment. There is a great difference and you know it.

You are acting like a child, showing little Christian maturity.

Have you never asked a person if they were in a salvic relationship with Christ? If not, you are not following Christ as He commanded n the Great Commission.

If you have a problem with me asking you the question I did take it up with Jesus. It is His commission under which I work.

cb

I find the abortion issue to be one of the most troubling moral issues. I have struggled for clarity since my teens on this and have “flip-flopped” twice. I find the Bible silent on the issue, despite it’s positive attitude toward children and childbearing. The closest verse to anything on the question (in Exodus) clearly values unborn life, but values the mother’s life higher.

I think most abortions are immoral–especially for reasons of convenience. But I think that abortions for extreme physical birth defects (of the type that usually result in infant death, e.g., shattered x syndrome, Tay Sachs, the rare case where only a brain stem and no brain develops, etc.), for rape or incest, may be a “lesser of evils.” They are incredibly difficult decisions which should be left to the pregnant woman and her doctor.

I also support better family planning and other proactive measures to reduce the number of abortions. Life is a biological question–it clearly begins at conception. Personhood is a metaphysical question that cannot be decided biologically. When does human personhood begin or end? That is not clear. And so, I oppose laws that would impose someone else’s metaphysics on the whole population.

Huckabee is not “pro-life,” but anti-abortion. He is pro-capital punishment (and has attacked Romney for not executing anyone when Gov. of Mass.–even though Mass. has no death penalty!), pro-torture, anti-Muslim, and pro-war. He is a very dangerous person who seems not to be because of his likeable manner and his economic populism.

He is one scary dude.

I have only looked at you profile and that was some time back. I have not read any of your post in a very long time, if ever.

My only reading of what you write is on this blog of the Big Daddy Weave.

Therefore, you should not be that insulted.

Furthermore, if it is insulting to you for someone to ask you about your salvation in the way of which I did, it might be a good idea to make sure you have actually received grace in the first place.

Frankly, I would appreciate the fact that someone cared enough to ask.

cb

I find that totally unacceptable.

Let us move away from the topic of this thread for a moment.

I know your wife is in a Christian ministry. I do not remember the nature.

I know your friend , and mine, Big Daddy, is a Christian by his profession. I have no reason on this earth not to believe him even though we do disagree on some things.

Now, to my point……You said; “I am a pro-choice liberal”…..

You did not say you were a pro-choice liberal “Christian.”

My question is; Are you in a grace relationship with Christ wherein you know you are a child of God because of the salvic work of Christ in His atonement for your sin in His death, burial and resurrection?

Michael, this is not a judgement question in any way. It is a question relating to your being a Christ-Follower.

I have several friends who are Christ-Followers, yet they are theological or political (or both) liberals.

Michael, have you been born again in the manner as prescribed in the New Testament as witnessed to and made known by the orthodox doctrine of soteriology?

cb

But Huckabee is scary not because he wants to outlaw abortion and gay marriage–lots of GOP conservatives do. But because he is a theocrat. He doesn’t want to give secular or natural law reasons for his views that non-Christians, or even Christians who disagree like me, can follow and perhaps be persuaded. No, he wants to impose his view of “God’s Law” on all of us. No thanks. No Christian Taliban for me, thanks.

1982 is the right year, but it was REagan’s Supreme Court appointments who “crawfished” on the abortion issue.

Huckabee should and does hold the strongest biblical worldview.

Therefore, I support him. Big Daddy, abortion can be stopped in this nation.

I tell you if Hillary Rodham Clinton were to say she would fight to stop abortion in this nation and Huckabee was not in the picture I would vote for her.

I would also buy many weapons on the black-market so she could not get them when she sent her people for them.

cb

That’s hardly an argument. Forget the tag Republican. But Reagan failed in what 1982? to amend the Constitution. Pro-Life politicians who have pledged their desire to overturn Roe have been in power for much of the last 35 years since SCOTUS handed down their controversial decision. What have they done on the abortion front? They’ve failed miserably.

We live in a Democracy. We have no dictator. No reputable scholar or political pundit will tell you that Huckabee’s proposed abortion amendment has absolutely no chance of being passed. It ain’t happening. First, the majority of Americans do not support overturning Roe. They support restrictions on abortion and over 30 states have restrictions on abortion. But they do not wish to see Roe overturned. Second, Americans aren’t overly fond of tinkering with that sacred foundational document, the United States Constitution. For example, the MAJORITY of Americans oppose gay marriage. But the Federal Marriage Amendment to ban gay marriage made little headway in Congress – in a Republican controlled Congress. Huckabee just doesn’t have the power or the support of his potential constituents to push through an abortion amendment.

The only hope that Huck has of overturning Roe is through Supreme Court nominations. But that’s no sure thing. Roe is considered settled law by many conservatives. Getting an anti-Roe nominee confirmed and then getting a Supreme Court to take up a test case and overturn Roe seems like a long shot. There is no room for error in that process. Like I said, it’s been 35 years and Roe has yet to be overturned – why now and why would a Huckabee nominee make a difference?

Like I’ve said at your blog – many of us are committed to supporting candidates and policies that would decrease the abortion rate drastically. In fact, many evangelicals see fighting Roe as a waste of time. There are other ways to lower the abortion rate. And even if Roe were overturned – it would only kick things back to the state. And the majority of the states would legalize abortion in some form if that were to happen. If overturning Roe is THE issue – I don’t think one necessarily has to vote for Huckabee. There are other choices. Now, if one wants to lower the abortion rate through various governmental programs and economic policies then the list of options for president gets much larger. After all, there are different means to reach the same end goal….