Comments on: Universalist Addresses Southern Baptist Convention http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2007/07/universalist-addresses-southern-baptist-convention.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=universalist-addresses-southern-baptist-convention News & Commentary About All Things Baptist Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:32:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Michael Westmoreland-White http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2007/07/universalist-addresses-southern-baptist-convention.html#comment-1223 Michael Westmoreland-White Sun, 29 Jul 2007 04:25:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=271#comment-1223 Strictly speaking, neither of these comments prove either Bush or Carter to be "universalist," in the sense of "everyone will be saved." In the comments quoted, Bush appears to be espousing a pluralist view of salvation, extending at least to the 3 monotheistic religions stemming from Abraham. That's what Carter's been accused of, too, although I think his remarks have been taken out of context. Strictly speaking, neither of these comments prove either Bush or Carter to be “universalist,” in the sense of “everyone will be saved.” In the comments quoted, Bush appears to be espousing a pluralist view of salvation, extending at least to the 3 monotheistic religions stemming from Abraham. That’s what Carter’s been accused of, too, although I think his remarks have been taken out of context.

]]> By: texasinafrica http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2007/07/universalist-addresses-southern-baptist-convention.html#comment-1221 texasinafrica Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:48:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=271#comment-1221 Oooh, you're going straight to hell for this one! :) Oooh, you’re going straight to hell for this one! :)

]]> By: Dan Trabue http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2007/07/universalist-addresses-southern-baptist-convention.html#comment-1220 Dan Trabue Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:35:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=271#comment-1220 Ahh, but you see, the difference is, when Bush says those sorts of things, he's lying. When Carter says them, he's being truthful.<br/><br/>So it is much better to have a lying non-universalist (or religious pluralist) than an honest universalist (or religious pluralist). Ahh, but you see, the difference is, when Bush says those sorts of things, he’s lying. When Carter says them, he’s being truthful.

So it is much better to have a lying non-universalist (or religious pluralist) than an honest universalist (or religious pluralist).

]]> By: matthew61 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2007/07/universalist-addresses-southern-baptist-convention.html#comment-1219 matthew61 Sat, 28 Jul 2007 01:02:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=271#comment-1219 Good catch on these quotes! Good catch on these quotes!

]]> By: peter lumpkins http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2007/07/universalist-addresses-southern-baptist-convention.html#comment-1218 peter lumpkins Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:19:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=271#comment-1218 Dear BDW,<br/><br/>Thanks for the clip. It's nice to reminisce about old news once in a while.<br/><br/>"But dangit, he's a Universalist!" is not quite precise. Actually, your frustration would have contained much more punch had your said "But dangit, he's a religious pluralist!" <br/><br/>Had he been a universalist, terrorists--whom the President said worshiped false gods--would have squeezed in. <br/><br/>Grace, Aaron. With that, I am...<br/><br/>Peter Dear BDW,

Thanks for the clip. It’s nice to reminisce about old news once in a while.

“But dangit, he’s a Universalist!” is not quite precise. Actually, your frustration would have contained much more punch had your said “But dangit, he’s a religious pluralist!”

Had he been a universalist, terrorists–whom the President said worshiped false gods–would have squeezed in.

Grace, Aaron. With that, I am…

Peter

]]> By: Tim http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2007/07/universalist-addresses-southern-baptist-convention.html#comment-1217 Tim Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:40:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=271#comment-1217 LOL<br/><br/>This is toooo funny! Thanks for bringing a smile to my face.<br/><br/>Tim Dahl LOL

This is toooo funny! Thanks for bringing a smile to my face.

Tim Dahl

]]> By: healtheland http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2007/07/universalist-addresses-southern-baptist-convention.html#comment-1216 healtheland Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:28:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=271#comment-1216 "Bush may be born-again and I have no reason to doubt that his faith in Jesus Christ is genuine." What? Leave aside his heretical blasphemous universalism for a second. How about his membership in the occult group Skulls and Bones? What about his affiliation with the anti - Christ group Council on Foreign Relations? What about his support for abortion and gay marriage? And as a progressive Christian this ought to strike you: what about his his spreading wide scale death and destruction against innocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan? What about his policies that oppress the poor and redistribute tax dollars to wealthy oil companies and similar? What about his desire to have the state fund and regulate the church? What about the Patriot Act, torture, denying people due process and civil rights, and spying? And perhaps most importantly: what about his giving our Supreme Court over to the Vatican? Now in the face of ALL THAT EVIDENCE INDICATING THAT HE IS <b> <i>NOT </b> </i> a Christian, give me ONE THING THAT INDICATES THAT HE IS. That he says so? Well, I am sorry, but I need a little bit more than that from a person whose agenda and associations have been so anti - Christ. I actually used to support the Iraq War because I felt that A) it would end the U.N. sanctions, which many progressive Christians claimed was causing many lives and B) it would make it easier to spread the faith over there. But the result of this war has been the EXACT OPPOSITE. It has been a disaster for human rights and Christianity in Iraq, America, and worldwide, and BUSH DOES NOT CARE. By the way ... just to poke at you a little bit ... import your blog to Wordpress ... once you get past the learning curve it is superior in every way, especially in terms of getting Internet search traffic to your blog. “Bush may be born-again and I have no reason to doubt that his faith in Jesus Christ is genuine.” What? Leave aside his heretical blasphemous universalism for a second. How about his membership in the occult group Skulls and Bones? What about his affiliation with the anti – Christ group Council on Foreign Relations? What about his support for abortion and gay marriage? And as a progressive Christian this ought to strike you: what about his his spreading wide scale death and destruction against innocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan? What about his policies that oppress the poor and redistribute tax dollars to wealthy oil companies and similar? What about his desire to have the state fund and regulate the church? What about the Patriot Act, torture, denying people due process and civil rights, and spying? And perhaps most importantly: what about his giving our Supreme Court over to the Vatican? Now in the face of ALL THAT EVIDENCE INDICATING THAT HE IS NOT a Christian, give me ONE THING THAT INDICATES THAT HE IS. That he says so? Well, I am sorry, but I need a little bit more than that from a person whose agenda and associations have been so anti – Christ. I actually used to support the Iraq War because I felt that A) it would end the U.N. sanctions, which many progressive Christians claimed was causing many lives and B) it would make it easier to spread the faith over there. But the result of this war has been the EXACT OPPOSITE. It has been a disaster for human rights and Christianity in Iraq, America, and worldwide, and BUSH DOES NOT CARE. By the way … just to poke at you a little bit … import your blog to WordPress … once you get past the learning curve it is superior in every way, especially in terms of getting Internet search traffic to your blog.

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