Comments on: 2008 Baptist Convocation, Part Two http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2007/01/2008-baptist-convocation-part-two.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=2008-baptist-convocation-part-two News & Commentary About All Things Baptist Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:32:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Michael Westmoreland-White http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2007/01/2008-baptist-convocation-part-two.html#comment-572 Michael Westmoreland-White Sun, 14 Jan 2007 03:10:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=153#comment-572 A good list of women. How come none of them are in the pictures of people making speeches? A good list of women. How come none of them are in the pictures of people making speeches?

]]> By: Big Daddy Weave http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2007/01/2008-baptist-convocation-part-two.html#comment-570 Big Daddy Weave Sun, 14 Jan 2007 01:13:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=153#comment-570 Women were invited. Most of the people invited were the Executive Directors of their organization/denomination. The BJC was invited and Brent Walker was the representative.<br /><br />Women that were invited and attended included:<br /><br /><br />Gail Gardner<br />Sarah Hallstrand, Executive Minister, American Baptist Churches of Greater Indianapolis<br />Ruby Burke, North American Baptist Fellowship<br />Yvonne Best, Associate Director for Program Development, Lott Carey Baptist Foreign Mission Society<br />Joyce B. Harris<br />Patricia Lane, Strategist, Intercultural Affinity Group, Baptist General Convention of Texas<br />Ashley McNeil, Lott Carey Baptist Foreign Mission Society<br />Rosemary Wade<br />Bertha Williams, Vice President, North American Baptist Fellowship Women were invited. Most of the people invited were the Executive Directors of their organization/denomination. The BJC was invited and Brent Walker was the representative.

Women that were invited and attended included:

Gail Gardner
Sarah Hallstrand, Executive Minister, American Baptist Churches of Greater Indianapolis
Ruby Burke, North American Baptist Fellowship
Yvonne Best, Associate Director for Program Development, Lott Carey Baptist Foreign Mission Society
Joyce B. Harris
Patricia Lane, Strategist, Intercultural Affinity Group, Baptist General Convention of Texas
Ashley McNeil, Lott Carey Baptist Foreign Mission Society
Rosemary Wade
Bertha Williams, Vice President, North American Baptist Fellowship

]]> By: Michael Westmoreland-White http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2007/01/2008-baptist-convocation-part-two.html#comment-569 Michael Westmoreland-White Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:10:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=153#comment-569 BTW, where are the women? I keep seeing pictures from the meetings over on Bruce Prescott's blog and there are no women in any of the pictures. This is progressive?<br /><br />This is a group that wants to promote justice and peace, but failed to invite representatives of the Baptist Peace Fellowship of North America, the Baptist Joint Committee on Religious Liberty, the Roger Williams Fellowship, Baptist Women in Ministry, the Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists (AWAB), etc. Odd, no? BTW, where are the women? I keep seeing pictures from the meetings over on Bruce Prescott’s blog and there are no women in any of the pictures. This is progressive?

This is a group that wants to promote justice and peace, but failed to invite representatives of the Baptist Peace Fellowship of North America, the Baptist Joint Committee on Religious Liberty, the Roger Williams Fellowship, Baptist Women in Ministry, the Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists (AWAB), etc. Odd, no?

]]> By: texasinafrica http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2007/01/2008-baptist-convocation-part-two.html#comment-568 texasinafrica Fri, 12 Jan 2007 01:27:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=153#comment-568 It wouldn't suprise me a bit to learn that the reason the Alliance was left out is their welcoming and affirming stance. It's not just CBF that might consider the Alliance "too liberal"; so would the BGCT and many of the other groups. Divison seems to be written into our DNA as Baptists. It wouldn’t suprise me a bit to learn that the reason the Alliance was left out is their welcoming and affirming stance. It’s not just CBF that might consider the Alliance “too liberal”; so would the BGCT and many of the other groups. Divison seems to be written into our DNA as Baptists.

]]> By: Michael Westmoreland-White http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2007/01/2008-baptist-convocation-part-two.html#comment-567 Michael Westmoreland-White Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:16:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=153#comment-567 Danny Chisolhm said, "There is a real hunger among some Baptists to be more concerned about societal ills than saying who believes the Bible more. " All the more reason that the Alliance of Baptists should have been invited. We have been, especially for our size, among the boldest for social justice since our founding in 1985. Danny Chisolhm said, “There is a real hunger among some Baptists to be more concerned about societal ills than saying who believes the Bible more. ” All the more reason that the Alliance of Baptists should have been invited. We have been, especially for our size, among the boldest for social justice since our founding in 1985.

]]> By: Dr. Danny Chisholm http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2007/01/2008-baptist-convocation-part-two.html#comment-566 Dr. Danny Chisholm Thu, 11 Jan 2007 06:12:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=153#comment-566 Let's wait to see how the meeting shapes up. It's encouraging to read the subjects for the breakout sessions. There is a real hunger among some Baptists to be more concerned about societal ills than saying who believes the Bible more. It will good to shape the direction of dialoge among Baptists. Getting criticism from SBC folks shouldn't be a surprise. Let’s wait to see how the meeting shapes up. It’s encouraging to read the subjects for the breakout sessions. There is a real hunger among some Baptists to be more concerned about societal ills than saying who believes the Bible more. It will good to shape the direction of dialoge among Baptists. Getting criticism from SBC folks shouldn’t be a surprise.

]]> By: foxofbama http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2007/01/2008-baptist-convocation-part-two.html#comment-565 foxofbama Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:01:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=153#comment-565 BDiddy:<br /> Please get Hankins on the record nuancing the authentic faith of Jerry Ford as evident in his funeral and portrayed by Time Magazine this week.<br /> GEt Hankins to weigh in on that and advance the discussion in the context of the sterling query he posed to James Dunn back in the mid 90's in a Baylor conference to the effect will there be anymore James Dunn's even Jerry Ford to flavor our national character if the community of right living, just not the churches they attend but the way a 'christian' world view permeated their communities;<br /> Can pristine consciences like their be shaped in the purely secular society we are now shaping to some degree by the abettance of the church state views Carter and Clinton and you and me advance.<br /> Ask Hankins to come back to that question after 8 years or so and through you let us know what he is now thinking.<br /> Fox in Bama with a Bounty on my Head BDiddy:
Please get Hankins on the record nuancing the authentic faith of Jerry Ford as evident in his funeral and portrayed by Time Magazine this week.
GEt Hankins to weigh in on that and advance the discussion in the context of the sterling query he posed to James Dunn back in the mid 90′s in a Baylor conference to the effect will there be anymore James Dunn’s even Jerry Ford to flavor our national character if the community of right living, just not the churches they attend but the way a ‘christian’ world view permeated their communities;
Can pristine consciences like their be shaped in the purely secular society we are now shaping to some degree by the abettance of the church state views Carter and Clinton and you and me advance.
Ask Hankins to come back to that question after 8 years or so and through you let us know what he is now thinking.
Fox in Bama with a Bounty on my Head

]]> By: Michael Westmoreland-White http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2007/01/2008-baptist-convocation-part-two.html#comment-564 Michael Westmoreland-White Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:35:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=153#comment-564 No, one has to jump through many hoops to join the BWA. While the CBF was working on this, the Alliance was successfully working to become a member of the National Council of Churches. I think the BWA might block any attempt we have to join because we are fully Welcoming and Affirming of GLBT folks, but I don't know this. The Alliance is small and has only a 2 person national staff. We do almost everything by partnerships.<br /><br />But I don't think the Seventh Day Baptists are part of the BWA either and they were invited to these meetings. No, one has to jump through many hoops to join the BWA. While the CBF was working on this, the Alliance was successfully working to become a member of the National Council of Churches. I think the BWA might block any attempt we have to join because we are fully Welcoming and Affirming of GLBT folks, but I don’t know this. The Alliance is small and has only a 2 person national staff. We do almost everything by partnerships.

But I don’t think the Seventh Day Baptists are part of the BWA either and they were invited to these meetings.

]]> By: Big Daddy Weave http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2007/01/2008-baptist-convocation-part-two.html#comment-563 Big Daddy Weave Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:07:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=153#comment-563 Back in April I asked why the Alliance and Greg Boyd's denomination, Baptist General Conference? I think, was left out.<br /><br />Both groups are supporting bodies of the BJC, so I assumed they would get an invite.<br /><br />Apparently the leaders represented are part of the North American Baptist Fellowship which is one of the six regional bodies of the BWA. Is the Alliance part of the BWA? If they aren't, perhaps this is the reason they were left out? Or were they left out for other reasons? Back in April I asked why the Alliance and Greg Boyd’s denomination, Baptist General Conference? I think, was left out.

Both groups are supporting bodies of the BJC, so I assumed they would get an invite.

Apparently the leaders represented are part of the North American Baptist Fellowship which is one of the six regional bodies of the BWA. Is the Alliance part of the BWA? If they aren’t, perhaps this is the reason they were left out? Or were they left out for other reasons?

]]> By: Michael Westmoreland-White http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2007/01/2008-baptist-convocation-part-two.html#comment-562 Michael Westmoreland-White Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:00:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=153#comment-562 My worry is that the Alliance of Baptists continues to be left out of these meetings. I think the CBF considers us "too liberal" and urges the others not to invite us. My worry is that the Alliance of Baptists continues to be left out of these meetings. I think the CBF considers us “too liberal” and urges the others not to invite us.

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