Comments on: Why I Am Still A Baptist http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/10/why-i-am-still-a-baptist.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=why-i-am-still-a-baptist News & Commentary About All Things Baptist Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:32:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: roy http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/10/why-i-am-still-a-baptist.html#comment-421 roy Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:18:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=116#comment-421 BDW,<br/>I don't know enough about the culture of the CBF but Wilson's comments resonate for me as an ABC person. I believe that the Baptist tradition holds within it the seeds of something new that works very well in a post-modern world. The tensions between soul liberty and community, church autonomy and the associational principle seem to fit a post modern world well. Add to that the historic commitment to mission around the world and I think we have the seeds of something. <br/>The problems come when we step back from those historic affirmations and when we focus on structures rather than mission.<br/>FWIW, I think Art's read of the issues in ABC around homosexuality are a little incomplete but that is another post. And I don't see a CBF/ABC merger taking place any time soon either. BDW,
I don’t know enough about the culture of the CBF but Wilson’s comments resonate for me as an ABC person. I believe that the Baptist tradition holds within it the seeds of something new that works very well in a post-modern world. The tensions between soul liberty and community, church autonomy and the associational principle seem to fit a post modern world well. Add to that the historic commitment to mission around the world and I think we have the seeds of something.
The problems come when we step back from those historic affirmations and when we focus on structures rather than mission.
FWIW, I think Art’s read of the issues in ABC around homosexuality are a little incomplete but that is another post. And I don’t see a CBF/ABC merger taking place any time soon either.

]]> By: art jaggard http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/10/why-i-am-still-a-baptist.html#comment-411 art jaggard Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:32:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=116#comment-411 Hey BDW!<br/>Great blog!<br/>As an ABC (former) middle judicatory person I had great hopes for a CBF/ABC merger a dozen years ago. I just don't see it happenning any more. Culturaly CBF is far closer to SBC than to ABC. And as you comment, ABC is in the midst of what some Regional Executive Ministers have called implosion. To merge with ABC would be to merge with a system committed to protecting an agenda that affirms the practice of homosexuality. <br/><br/>A fine line I suppose, but real none the less, ABC officially says the practice of homosexulaity is incompatible with the Bible, but the system is committed to protecting the agenda affirming the practice. My sense is that the fabric of the ABC family will not survive the strain of this discontinuity. Is the fabric of CBF strong enough to not tear in half under such stress?<br/><br/>Art Hey BDW!
Great blog!
As an ABC (former) middle judicatory person I had great hopes for a CBF/ABC merger a dozen years ago. I just don’t see it happenning any more. Culturaly CBF is far closer to SBC than to ABC. And as you comment, ABC is in the midst of what some Regional Executive Ministers have called implosion. To merge with ABC would be to merge with a system committed to protecting an agenda that affirms the practice of homosexuality.

A fine line I suppose, but real none the less, ABC officially says the practice of homosexulaity is incompatible with the Bible, but the system is committed to protecting the agenda affirming the practice. My sense is that the fabric of the ABC family will not survive the strain of this discontinuity. Is the fabric of CBF strong enough to not tear in half under such stress?

Art

]]> By: Dr. Danny Chisholm http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/10/why-i-am-still-a-baptist.html#comment-408 Dr. Danny Chisholm Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:14:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=116#comment-408 Baptists have always had schismatic tendencies, and perhaps there will be more shifts and splits down the road. I'd like to think CBF is just now gaining its legs for mission and ministry. It's only a teenager, for goodness sake! Baptists have always had schismatic tendencies, and perhaps there will be more shifts and splits down the road. I’d like to think CBF is just now gaining its legs for mission and ministry. It’s only a teenager, for goodness sake!

]]> By: Big Daddy Weave http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/10/why-i-am-still-a-baptist.html#comment-397 Big Daddy Weave Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:11:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=116#comment-397 Thanks for that tip. I seem to be getting several of those comments each day.<br/><br/>I'm not sure if it has to be approved by the Assembly. I kinda don't think so... Thanks for that tip. I seem to be getting several of those comments each day.

I’m not sure if it has to be approved by the Assembly. I kinda don’t think so…

]]> By: dave http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/10/why-i-am-still-a-baptist.html#comment-396 dave Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:34:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=116#comment-396 Yeah, I saw that about my Alma Mater. I had always thought of Campbell and G-Dubb as sister schools (one doesn't go without the other). I'm not sure what I make of it all. <br/><br/>Perhaps they only wanted one per state. (They also left off WF). <br/><br/>And why only selecting 4 of the 6? <br/><br/>Does this have to go to a vote at the GA?<br/><br/><br/><br/>And BTW, I've noticed you get a bunch of junk responses, you might want to enable the word verification. Yeah, I saw that about my Alma Mater. I had always thought of Campbell and G-Dubb as sister schools (one doesn’t go without the other). I’m not sure what I make of it all.

Perhaps they only wanted one per state. (They also left off WF).

And why only selecting 4 of the 6?

Does this have to go to a vote at the GA?

And BTW, I’ve noticed you get a bunch of junk responses, you might want to enable the word verification.

]]> By: Big Daddy Weave http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/10/why-i-am-still-a-baptist.html#comment-395 Big Daddy Weave Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:05:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=116#comment-395 What do you make of Gardner-Webb not being selected as an Identity Partner with the CBF?<br/><br/>Only BTSR, Truett, McAfee, and Campbell were chosen as Identity Partners - the remaining schools were deemed leadership partners.<br/><br/>http://www.abpnews.com/1434.article<br/><br/>The first 3 schools were obvious selections but I'm not sure why Campbell got the nod over a few others? What do you make of Gardner-Webb not being selected as an Identity Partner with the CBF?

Only BTSR, Truett, McAfee, and Campbell were chosen as Identity Partners – the remaining schools were deemed leadership partners.

http://www.abpnews.com/1434.article

The first 3 schools were obvious selections but I’m not sure why Campbell got the nod over a few others?

]]> By: dave http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/10/why-i-am-still-a-baptist.html#comment-394 dave Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:49:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=116#comment-394 Perhaps sometime down the road.<br/><br/>I think it would be a good thing to reconcile with our brothers and sisters.<br/><br/>And if not(yet)a merge, at least I hope the meeting in DC will start an on-going partnership. Perhaps sometime down the road.

I think it would be a good thing to reconcile with our brothers and sisters.

And if not(yet)a merge, at least I hope the meeting in DC will start an on-going partnership.

]]> By: Big Daddy Weave http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/10/why-i-am-still-a-baptist.html#comment-393 Big Daddy Weave Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:34:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=116#comment-393 Maybe? <br/><br/>I'd support some type of unique partnership at this point but not a full merger. CBF is still sooo young.<br/><br/>Meanwhile, the ABC has their own issues that must be dealt with. I'm not sure whether it would be wise for the CBF to merge with an organization that is not exactly financially healthy (at the moment)? Maybe?

I’d support some type of unique partnership at this point but not a full merger. CBF is still sooo young.

Meanwhile, the ABC has their own issues that must be dealt with. I’m not sure whether it would be wise for the CBF to merge with an organization that is not exactly financially healthy (at the moment)?

]]> By: dave http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/10/why-i-am-still-a-baptist.html#comment-392 dave Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:23:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=116#comment-392 Could the "IT" he referred to be something we catch a glimpse of in Washington, DC, this year?<br/><br/>In 1845(?) the SBC split from the (then)Northern Baptist Convention. <br/>What if the two reunited? <br/><br/>Doubtful the current SBC would join but what about a CBF/ABC merger? Could the “IT” he referred to be something we catch a glimpse of in Washington, DC, this year?

In 1845(?) the SBC split from the (then)Northern Baptist Convention.
What if the two reunited?

Doubtful the current SBC would join but what about a CBF/ABC merger?

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