Comments on: Baptist Heroes http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/08/baptist-heroes.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=baptist-heroes News & Commentary About All Things Baptist Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:32:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: foxofbama http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/08/baptist-heroes.html#comment-131 foxofbama Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:12:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=54#comment-131 BigyD: From now on less call our possible mutual acquaintances at Calvary The People in Question or TPIQ. I blog as much in an updated catchall post where I just put you in the title.<br/> My history here in Collinsville Alabama I think has striking similarities to your experience in Soperton, though I am old enough to be Yo Daddy.<br/> My Dad was a preacher, friend of Lolley and bill Self. I have read Baylor's Hankins and encourage you to read STricklin's Geneaology of Dissent. I am fairly good friends with two former Baylor Alum Presidents, Randy Fields and Bob Morrison.<br/> So let's cross blog and see where it goes.<br/> For the Ride.....sfox<br/> I know Dunn, he knows me<br/> So guess we're gettin ready<br/> To Have a Babdiss Parteeeee BigyD: From now on less call our possible mutual acquaintances at Calvary The People in Question or TPIQ. I blog as much in an updated catchall post where I just put you in the title.
My history here in Collinsville Alabama I think has striking similarities to your experience in Soperton, though I am old enough to be Yo Daddy.
My Dad was a preacher, friend of Lolley and bill Self. I have read Baylor’s Hankins and encourage you to read STricklin’s Geneaology of Dissent. I am fairly good friends with two former Baylor Alum Presidents, Randy Fields and Bob Morrison.
So let’s cross blog and see where it goes.
For the Ride…..sfox
I know Dunn, he knows me
So guess we’re gettin ready
To Have a Babdiss Parteeeee

]]> By: foxofbama http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/08/baptist-heroes.html#comment-129 foxofbama Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:56:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=54#comment-129 Big Daddy: I want you to search around Baylor for a woman from my town in Alabama, Becky Kennedy. She was associated with Baptist Hour Choir and I think she is a member at Calvary.<br/> I read at Bl.com your travail in Soperton and disappointment with Big Oaks Church.<br/> I am having similar problems with the church where my Mother was baptized, Collinsville Alabama Babdiss; the church that shaped Kennedy, a friend of Molly Marshall, who in my opinion leaves her Babdiss ID at the city limits sign when she comes home.<br/> Dunn is a great one, irascible for sure; but he would be the first to say, in his comology are Stewart Newman, Truett and Marney.<br/> Glorify those as well.<br/> Check on my blog.<br/> Stay in Touch.<br/> Take of on Randall Balmer's Where Have All teh Baptists Gone chapter in his Thy Kingdom Come.<br/> Duren has blacklisted me on his blog. Be careful when you sing his praises.<br/> Take Care.<br/> Fox in Bama Big Daddy: I want you to search around Baylor for a woman from my town in Alabama, Becky Kennedy. She was associated with Baptist Hour Choir and I think she is a member at Calvary.
I read at Bl.com your travail in Soperton and disappointment with Big Oaks Church.
I am having similar problems with the church where my Mother was baptized, Collinsville Alabama Babdiss; the church that shaped Kennedy, a friend of Molly Marshall, who in my opinion leaves her Babdiss ID at the city limits sign when she comes home.
Dunn is a great one, irascible for sure; but he would be the first to say, in his comology are Stewart Newman, Truett and Marney.
Glorify those as well.
Check on my blog.
Stay in Touch.
Take of on Randall Balmer’s Where Have All teh Baptists Gone chapter in his Thy Kingdom Come.
Duren has blacklisted me on his blog. Be careful when you sing his praises.
Take Care.
Fox in Bama

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/08/baptist-heroes.html#comment-128 Anonymous Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:58:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=54#comment-128 I believe that any way you want to slice it, James Dunn was one contributing factor to the success of the conservative resurgence. His strident language might have been profitable in one arena but in the context of the SBC of the 1980s virtually every syllable that came from his mouth caused hundreds of votes to go to the SBC conservatives - water under the bridge at this late stage.<br/><br/>Although I haven't agreed with all of his stuff, I like Dunn and have no doubt he is an outstanding Christian. He was, however, not helpful in those many narrow SBC elections.<br/><br/>BTW, while I don't agree with many of John Lewis' political positions, I admire him. He is an authentic civil rights hero with stature few others command.<br/><br/>William Thornton, UGA '72 I believe that any way you want to slice it, James Dunn was one contributing factor to the success of the conservative resurgence. His strident language might have been profitable in one arena but in the context of the SBC of the 1980s virtually every syllable that came from his mouth caused hundreds of votes to go to the SBC conservatives – water under the bridge at this late stage.

Although I haven’t agreed with all of his stuff, I like Dunn and have no doubt he is an outstanding Christian. He was, however, not helpful in those many narrow SBC elections.

BTW, while I don’t agree with many of John Lewis’ political positions, I admire him. He is an authentic civil rights hero with stature few others command.

William Thornton, UGA ’72

]]> By: Big Daddy Weave http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/08/baptist-heroes.html#comment-126 Big Daddy Weave Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:04:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=54#comment-126 Jeff,<br/><br/>If you will read my paper - you will see that the BJC Board made the decision to narrow the focus of the BJC to strictly Church-State issues (abortion did not fall into that category according to the Board). This decision was made prior to Dunn's arrival as Executive Director. <br/><br/>When Dunn was hired, he agreed not to discuss abortion and leave that to the folks at the CLC.<br/><br/>If you have not noticed, the BJC is now the Baptist Joint Commitee for Religious Liberty not BJC on Public Affairs. <br/><br/>Dunn's refusal to discuss abortion angered the Fundamentalists. His positions on Church-State issues were consistent, though. The BJC did not change. The SBC leaders changed their views on the separation of church and state. Accommodation is not Separation.<br/><br/>Is it a big deal that Dunn was friends with Clinton and Gore? Dunn was also great friends with Republican Senator Mark Hatfield. <br/><br/>The Clinton administration actually believed in Separation - Mr. Reagan did not... Jeff,

If you will read my paper – you will see that the BJC Board made the decision to narrow the focus of the BJC to strictly Church-State issues (abortion did not fall into that category according to the Board). This decision was made prior to Dunn’s arrival as Executive Director.

When Dunn was hired, he agreed not to discuss abortion and leave that to the folks at the CLC.

If you have not noticed, the BJC is now the Baptist Joint Commitee for Religious Liberty not BJC on Public Affairs.

Dunn’s refusal to discuss abortion angered the Fundamentalists. His positions on Church-State issues were consistent, though. The BJC did not change. The SBC leaders changed their views on the separation of church and state. Accommodation is not Separation.

Is it a big deal that Dunn was friends with Clinton and Gore? Dunn was also great friends with Republican Senator Mark Hatfield.

The Clinton administration actually believed in Separation – Mr. Reagan did not…

]]> By: roy http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/08/baptist-heroes.html#comment-125 roy Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:53:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=54#comment-125 Jim Dunn is one of my heroes too Jim Dunn is one of my heroes too

]]> By: Jeff http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/08/baptist-heroes.html#comment-124 Jeff Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:58:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=54#comment-124 Dunn refused to oppose abortion on demand but regularly opposed positions the SBC championed. He said about the pro-life position, “One specific brand of theology would be written into the Constitution if the Human Life Amendment people had their way. It is a church/state issue when the sex ethic of one theology is pushed as the law of the land” (Preceedings of the March 23-25, 1981 CLC Seminar). By 1991 the SBC had had enough, and it defunded Dunn's agency. But the following year, Dunn was thrilled when Clinton and Gore, "a couple of buddies," were elected. During the 1998 impeachment crisis, he defended Clinton; according to one report, “Dunn said Americans ‘need to learn that morality is not simply sexuality. The Clinton presidency has been exceedingly moral..." he said. (Associated Baptist Press, September 14, 1998). Dunn refused to oppose abortion on demand but regularly opposed positions the SBC championed. He said about the pro-life position, “One specific brand of theology would be written into the Constitution if the Human Life Amendment people had their way. It is a church/state issue when the sex ethic of one theology is pushed as the law of the land” (Preceedings of the March 23-25, 1981 CLC Seminar). By 1991 the SBC had had enough, and it defunded Dunn’s agency. But the following year, Dunn was thrilled when Clinton and Gore, “a couple of buddies,” were elected. During the 1998 impeachment crisis, he defended Clinton; according to one report, “Dunn said Americans ‘need to learn that morality is not simply sexuality. The Clinton presidency has been exceedingly moral…” he said. (Associated Baptist Press, September 14, 1998).

]]> By: Big Daddy Weave http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/08/baptist-heroes.html#comment-123 Big Daddy Weave Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:22:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=54#comment-123 Indeed Maston was a great Baptist. Dunn will tell you that the two men who influenced him the most were T.B. Maston and J.M. Dawson. Indeed Maston was a great Baptist. Dunn will tell you that the two men who influenced him the most were T.B. Maston and J.M. Dawson.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/08/baptist-heroes.html#comment-122 Anonymous Sun, 27 Aug 2006 14:23:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=54#comment-122 You cannot list James Dunn or Jimmy Allen without first claiming T.B. Maston as one of the truly great Baptists of the 20th century. Your hero is definately an admirable one and one that has done more for Baptists and America than anyone including myself to ensure the freedom of religion You cannot list James Dunn or Jimmy Allen without first claiming T.B. Maston as one of the truly great Baptists of the 20th century. Your hero is definately an admirable one and one that has done more for Baptists and America than anyone including myself to ensure the freedom of religion

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