Comments on: Youth for Calvin http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/06/youth-for-calvin.html News & Commentary About All Things Baptist Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:48:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Shelly http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/06/youth-for-calvin.html#comment-2216 Shelly Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:35:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=28#comment-2216 I was brought to an understanding of the Doctrines of Grace when I was in college 25 years ago (a bastion of secular humanism - The University of Texas). I am currently a devoted member of an SBC church as well as a hard-core five point Calvinist. It's my belief that many college students embrace Calvinism because of its intellectual and logical appeal. That's certainly something that appealed (and still appeals) to me. It has also been my experience that young Calvinists tend to be a little arrogant, because of the larger view of God that Reformed theology brings. However, as they grow in grace, that attitude is usually corrected by the Holy Spirit Himself. As I have matured in my faith I have learned that, although I am much more orthodox than most of my fellow SBC local church members, many, if not most, of them actually know and love God better than I do. Praise God that He does not require strict orthodoxy as a prerequisite for membership in His body. True, right thinking is important, but we are not saved by what we believe, but rather by Whom we trust. I was brought to an understanding of the Doctrines of Grace when I was in college 25 years ago (a bastion of secular humanism - The University of Texas). I am currently a devoted member of an SBC church as well as a hard-core five point Calvinist. It’s my belief that many college students embrace Calvinism because of its intellectual and logical appeal. That’s certainly something that appealed (and still appeals) to me. It has also been my experience that young Calvinists tend to be a little arrogant, because of the larger view of God that Reformed theology brings. However, as they grow in grace, that attitude is usually corrected by the Holy Spirit Himself. As I have matured in my faith I have learned that, although I am much more orthodox than most of my fellow SBC local church members, many, if not most, of them actually know and love God better than I do. Praise God that He does not require strict orthodoxy as a prerequisite for membership in His body. True, right thinking is important, but we are not saved by what we believe, but rather by Whom we trust.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/06/youth-for-calvin.html#comment-2019 Anonymous Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:02:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=28#comment-2019 I am a trustee of Golden Gate Seminary, and I will attest that there are several self-identified Calvinists on our faculty. We have added atleast two in the last two years and a third just this month. Our president, Dr. Iorg also identifies himself as a Calvinist, but does not make a big deal of it. Speaking of a recent faculty addition, who described himself as an "evangelistic Calvinist," Dr. Iorg commented, "Doesn't that just mean you're a Baptist?" I am a trustee of Golden Gate Seminary, and I will attest that there are several self-identified Calvinists on our faculty. We have added atleast two in the last two years and a third just this month. Our president, Dr. Iorg also identifies himself as a Calvinist, but does not make a big deal of it. Speaking of a recent faculty addition, who described himself as an “evangelistic Calvinist,” Dr. Iorg commented, “Doesn’t that just mean you’re a Baptist?”

]]> By: Timothy Davis http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/06/youth-for-calvin.html#comment-47 Timothy Davis Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:11:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=28#comment-47 Glad to hear of a return to historic Baptist belief amongst our American Baptist brethren. Glad to hear of a return to historic Baptist belief amongst our American Baptist brethren.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/06/youth-for-calvin.html#comment-46 Anonymous Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:13:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=28#comment-46 Am I to assume from the tone of your other blog entries that you think Calvinism is a bad thing? Am I to assume from the tone of your other blog entries that you think Calvinism is a bad thing?

]]> By: Nathan Finn http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/06/youth-for-calvin.html#comment-45 Nathan Finn Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:04:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=28#comment-45 Aaron,<br/>I would be interested to hear your "young moderate leader" take on the SBC this year, including the discussions about Calvinism. I know you don't post regularly, but I still think it would be interesting to hear a non-SBC perspective.<br/>NAF Aaron,
I would be interested to hear your “young moderate leader” take on the SBC this year, including the discussions about Calvinism. I know you don’t post regularly, but I still think it would be interesting to hear a non-SBC perspective.
NAF

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/06/youth-for-calvin.html#comment-44 Anonymous Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:54:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=28#comment-44 I have heard that Baptist churches spread more rapidly on the frontier than presbies because of the lack of trained presby pastors.<br/>Apparently rigourous theological training was not as much as a requirement for Baptist pastors during those times. This could account for the move away from calvinism among Baptists. I have heard that Baptist churches spread more rapidly on the frontier than presbies because of the lack of trained presby pastors.
Apparently rigourous theological training was not as much as a requirement for Baptist pastors during those times. This could account for the move away from calvinism among Baptists.

]]> By: D.R. http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/2006/06/youth-for-calvin.html#comment-42 D.R. Tue, 06 Jun 2006 09:02:00 +0000 http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com/?p=28#comment-42 As a Calvinist, I appreciate you posting on your blog a rather fair assessment of the Reformed movement among Evangelicals and especially Southern Baptists. However, I would strongly urge you to not lump the Calvinist movement in the SBC with the Dominionist or Reconstructionistic Calvinism of Rushdooney and others. The stream of Calvinism in the SBC is strictly soteriological and missiological. Rarely will you see Calvinists in the SBC concerning themselves with engaging in political spheres. In fact, while it is true that most Calvinists vote Republican, it is mostly because of social policy and not because of any sort of overall political agenda. Many Calvinists actually view politics as counter-doctrinal, in that using politics to acheive any sort of spiritual ends goes against the Doctrine of God's Sovereignty and actually causes one to put trust in the State rather than in God, Himself.<br/><br/>So, I think it best to separate what is being talked about on the talktoaction.com website in regards to Christian Reconstructionism and Calvinism from the new Reformed movement in Evangelicalism until such a time as they are shown to be actually related to one another, something for which I have yet to find evidence and for which sufficient evidence has yet to be presented. As a Calvinist, I appreciate you posting on your blog a rather fair assessment of the Reformed movement among Evangelicals and especially Southern Baptists. However, I would strongly urge you to not lump the Calvinist movement in the SBC with the Dominionist or Reconstructionistic Calvinism of Rushdooney and others. The stream of Calvinism in the SBC is strictly soteriological and missiological. Rarely will you see Calvinists in the SBC concerning themselves with engaging in political spheres. In fact, while it is true that most Calvinists vote Republican, it is mostly because of social policy and not because of any sort of overall political agenda. Many Calvinists actually view politics as counter-doctrinal, in that using politics to acheive any sort of spiritual ends goes against the Doctrine of God’s Sovereignty and actually causes one to put trust in the State rather than in God, Himself.

So, I think it best to separate what is being talked about on the talktoaction.com website in regards to Christian Reconstructionism and Calvinism from the new Reformed movement in Evangelicalism until such a time as they are shown to be actually related to one another, something for which I have yet to find evidence and for which sufficient evidence has yet to be presented.

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